New season proposals 2011-12 - Page 11

Quacker · 08-11-2011, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by iadukhntr

Nrc was very upset with Guy for not giving them all the info they needed. Guy needs to change his ways.

What kind of info was he withholding?

goosebite · 08-11-2011, 02:37 PM

I'm just saying... this is the reason deer hunters and people who call jumping woodies duck hunting should not be able to vote!

altrocker1 · 08-11-2011, 03:46 PM

basically guy stated he did not want to propose a 3 zone structure until he recieved the survey info, knowing full well that the cutoff from the usfws was july 31st. they were a little upset that he didn't mention that it was a possibility since he suspected that the survey would not be complete by then. the survey data was made public today for the first time, which is obviously too late to even consider a 3 zone split since it was never an option in the first or second proposal.

Tomandju · 08-11-2011, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by goosebite

I'm just saying... this is the reason deer hunters and people who call jumping woodies duck hunting should not be able to vote!

Thats the crazy thing I've ever heard

goosebite · 08-11-2011, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Tomandju

Thats the crazy thing I've ever heard

My failed attempt at humor...

iadukhntr · 08-11-2011, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by altrocker1

basically guy stated he did not want to propose a 3 zone structure until he recieved the survey info, knowing full well that the cutoff from the usfws was july 31st. they were a little upset that he didn't mention that it was a possibility since he suspected that the survey would not be complete by then. the survey data was made public today for the first time, which is obviously too late to even consider a 3 zone split since it was never an option in the first or second proposal.

I felt Guy tried to pull a fast one by not giving the NRC 100% of the information he had, also i feel that the survey he had was a bit skewed. When you ask a hunter what week they prefer to hunt the majority will say the first week of the season or the 3rd week of sept in our case. Guy then added the 4th week of sept and the first 2 weeks of oct to the 3rd week of sept data.

feathhd · 08-11-2011, 06:46 PM

Guys need to plot this out on the Iowa map. This is what passed today as well and everyone should take note of that.

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The north duck hunting zone is that part of Iowa north of a line beginning at South Dakota-Iowa border at Interstate 29, southeast to Woodbury County Road D38, east to Woodbury County Road K45, southeast to State Highway 175, east to State Highway 37, southeast to State Highway 183, northeast to State Highway 141, east to U.S. Highway 30, and along U.S. Highway 30 to the Iowa-Illinois border. The south duck hunting zone is the remainder of the state.

JCRosonke · 08-11-2011, 07:45 PM

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basically guy stated he did not want to propose a 3 zone structure until he recieved the survey info

The 3rd zone stuff doesn't bother me, there was no way with out playing what if games to know if FWS would even allow it until 2 weeks ago. Hell, even now that it's allowed the states still have to prove going forward that hunter satisfaction has improved and harvest hasn't gone up, or the option could go away.

Much MUCH better we take the next year to hash out the possibilities and do it right since we'll be stuck with what ever decision is made until 2016.

moving the zone line up to Souix city was a very nice first step, now we have a year to make sure the 3rd zone issue isn't a cluster next August.

SpeckleBellySwag · 08-11-2011, 08:03 PM

so will the daily bag for the canada goose be as last years 2 bird limit until November, then an increase to 3? and any daily bag changes to individual duck species limit? Thanks

ringbill · 08-11-2011, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by IAtaxidermist

And as for forum garble bringing guys down, I'll be the first to admit that I get pretty damn cranky when we have to fight for the seasons yearly to be the way there suppose to be. Brings out the worst in me and unfortunately this is where I vent, because I know it gets read by dnr. Looks like the hardcores won today(ass slap), next year someone will probably want the north zone to start a week earlier, then I'll get crabby again it's a viscous cycle. Till then we can all be happy as school girls knowing the task at hand thats upon us and that's a fistful of green heads. Cheers!

X2

I appologise to everyone for getting so damn cranky over the subject. The way everything went about from the late proposal, to the survey data, got me angry at everything and everyone. My bad. I will play nice for a while.

bullcan · 08-11-2011, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ringbill

X2

I appologise to everyone for getting so damn cranky over the subject. The way everything went about from the late proposal, to the survey data, got me angry at everything and everyone. My bad. I will play nice for a while.

Does that mean we can kiss and make up?

Paddles Down · 08-14-2011, 04:58 PM

So what was decided for seasons after thursdays meeting with Guy?

feathhd · 08-14-2011, 06:21 PM

A little insight Jr to the zone issue. There is no way in hell it is going anyplace anytime soon. Those issues you pointed to had to be worked out before the USFWS granted it. Which was part of the problem they rejected the firts time this year.

Problem is resolved.

08-11-2011, 02:37 PM	#132
goosebite Just Got Here Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Cedar Falls Posts: 6 Thanked: 0 times	Re: New season proposals 2011-12 I'm just saying... this is the reason deer hunters and people who call jumping woodies duck hunting should not be able to vote! __________________ "Shoot 'em in the lips... ducks and chicks!"

08-11-2011, 03:46 PM	#133
altrocker1 IAW Top Shot Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: ankeny Posts: 1,637 Thanked: 153 times	Re: New season proposals 2011-12 basically guy stated he did not want to propose a 3 zone structure until he recieved the survey info, knowing full well that the cutoff from the usfws was july 31st. they were a little upset that he didn't mention that it was a possibility since he suspected that the survey would not be complete by then. the survey data was made public today for the first time, which is obviously too late to even consider a 3 zone split since it was never an option in the first or second proposal.

08-11-2011, 08:03 PM	#139
SpeckleBellySwag Ringneck Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Iowa Posts: 117 Thanked: 13 times	Re: New season proposals 2011-12 so will the daily bag for the canada goose be as last years 2 bird limit until November, then an increase to 3? and any daily bag changes to individual duck species limit? Thanks

08-14-2011, 04:58 PM	#142
Paddles Down Just Got Here Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1 Thanked: 0 times	Re: New season proposals 2011-12 So what was decided for seasons after thursdays meeting with Guy?

08-14-2011, 06:21 PM	#143
feathhd IAW Top Shot Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 1,536 Thanked: 130 times	Re: New season proposals 2011-12 A little insight Jr to the zone issue. There is no way in hell it is going anyplace anytime soon. Those issues you pointed to had to be worked out before the USFWS granted it. Which was part of the problem they rejected the firts time this year. Problem is resolved. __________________ F/H/D

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